Comments on: The Hirst-Cartrain Incident http://bigi.org.uk/cochrane/2009/09/06/the-hirst-cartrain-incident/ Rich Cochrane's Blog Mon, 03 May 2010 14:08:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 100artworks http://bigi.org.uk/cochrane/2009/09/06/the-hirst-cartrain-incident/comment-page-1/#comment-9 100artworks Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:13:43 +0000 http://bigi.org.uk/cochrane/?p=33#comment-9 Please support Cartrain... Artworks available from www.100artworks.com Please support Cartrain…
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]]> By: Robert Kingham http://bigi.org.uk/cochrane/2009/09/06/the-hirst-cartrain-incident/comment-page-1/#comment-4 Robert Kingham Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:41:54 +0000 http://bigi.org.uk/cochrane/?p=33#comment-4 If Cartrain really wants to commit a notorious artcrime then I'd suggest that he listens to David Bowie's '1. Outside', over and over again, until his mind gives way. If Cartrain really wants to commit a notorious artcrime then I’d suggest that he listens to David Bowie’s ’1. Outside’, over and over again, until his mind gives way.

]]> By: Rich http://bigi.org.uk/cochrane/2009/09/06/the-hirst-cartrain-incident/comment-page-1/#comment-3 Rich Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:17:51 +0000 http://bigi.org.uk/cochrane/?p=33#comment-3 Cheers for the clarification on the pencils, that's interesting and it counts against Hirst if he's deliberately set a punitively high cost to his replacement of the pencils just because he can. Modern/Britain snafu fixed too. Cheers for the clarification on the pencils, that’s interesting and it counts against Hirst if he’s deliberately set a punitively high cost to his replacement of the pencils just because he can.

Modern/Britain snafu fixed too.

]]> By: Danny http://bigi.org.uk/cochrane/2009/09/06/the-hirst-cartrain-incident/comment-page-1/#comment-2 Danny Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:24:47 +0000 http://bigi.org.uk/cochrane/?p=33#comment-2 Hmm, while I can't see how anybody's sympathies wouldn't lie entirely with Cartrain, and stealing from an art gallery is much more in the tradition of conceptual art than the increasingly dry Koonsian droppings that Hirst passes these days, your logic is watertight with one exception (and a factual correction: Pharmacy is/was on display at Tate Britain, not Tate Modern... Hirst might be Modern but he's also British): the value of the pencils. It wouldn't actually cost either Tate or Hirst half a million quid to replace the pencils; neither contract nor perceived value obliges them to be worth a proportion of the 'artwork': contemporary collectible work like Hirst's depends entirely on what the artist has validated as his own work, and it's common for artists to come to an arrangement about repairing or restoring damaged works (Hirst restored his own shark for Saatchi; he could quite easily pick up a box of pencils to replace those stolen). Pretending otherwise is only Serota and Hirst's part of the continued mystical bargain of the art market. Hmm, while I can’t see how anybody’s sympathies wouldn’t lie entirely with Cartrain, and stealing from an art gallery is much more in the tradition of conceptual art than the increasingly dry Koonsian droppings that Hirst passes these days, your logic is watertight with one exception (and a factual correction: Pharmacy is/was on display at Tate Britain, not Tate Modern… Hirst might be Modern but he’s also British): the value of the pencils.

It wouldn’t actually cost either Tate or Hirst half a million quid to replace the pencils; neither contract nor perceived value obliges them to be worth a proportion of the ‘artwork’: contemporary collectible work like Hirst’s depends entirely on what the artist has validated as his own work, and it’s common for artists to come to an arrangement about repairing or restoring damaged works (Hirst restored his own shark for Saatchi; he could quite easily pick up a box of pencils to replace those stolen). Pretending otherwise is only Serota and Hirst’s part of the continued mystical bargain of the art market.

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